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Great interview, my favorite line: “Unlike the hollow expertise I developed during my corporate career, the mastery I pursue now feels very rich and rewarding."

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The depth of curiosity and obsession with her craft just jumped off the screen when I talked to her.

Another example of self-driven mastery that I had to cut out for concision:

“I've never seen anyone draw with charcoal. So I've been trying to figure out how to do it? How many times do you have to sharpen your charcoal? How sharp does it have to be? What hardness should it be? What paper should it be? All of these things are experiments that I'm having to do on my own, and I just really find it interesting.”

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